Why The Electoral College Needs To Be Abolished

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America’s liberal democracy has existed for over two hundred years, and still uses a voting system developed for a bygone era. For a long time, this didn’t really seem to matter, as America consistently and wisely chose accredited leaders to run our country, from Woodrow Wilson and George Bush to Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama. But our most recent election has exposed a gaping flaw in our electoral system, which has allowed a racist, homophobic, Islamaphobic and transphobic bigot to rise to power due to an unusual voter turnout in America’s flyover states and counties.

Article Two of our long outdated constitution commissions an “Electoral College” consisting of state representatives, to elect our President. Rather than using a nation-wide popular vote, our current system allows sparsely populated hick states to elect a representative who’s vote counts just as much as a representative from a populous, diverse and forward thinking state like California or New York. This allows bigoted white-trash rednecks and country hillbillies to effectively vote many times over, while a progressive college student in Chicago, or a poor undocumented American in California sees his/her/xer vote cut in half.

Experts have calculated that Hillary won the popular vote and received more votes than any other Presidential candidate in history except Barrack Obama! Republicans continue to whine about election fraud, but the fact is the record voter turnout this year was for primarily for Hillary. This was evident by the large crowds at her events, the lack of protests against her during and after the election, the money she was able to raise, and the praise she received from the accredited media, which represents the will of the people. For the sake of Democracy, we simply  have to amend the constitution to abolish the Electoral College, so that Hillary is rightfully elected President this January, and not Trump. The people have spoken, and they want Hillary. George Soros’ charitable organization moveon.org, has created a petition to abolish the electoral college, which has almost reached its goal of 550,000 signatures. I encourage all of you to sign this petition and make your voice heard – our democracy and the future of America depends on it.

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/abolish-the-electoral-6

MillionDollarBonus_

Have you seen the armed police and secret service outside of Trump Tower oppressing protesters? This is total fascism! Next we’re going to see undocumented American families dragged kicking and screaming over the border! The fourth Reich has truly arrived in America!!

trav777

I think it’s the Fifth or Sixth Reich now by my count. Milosevic was the next Hitler and after him, it was Saddam. So that makes Trump like Hitler #4…ok, so Seventh Reich.

I agree on abolishing the electoral college. Progressives and illegals in California ran up the vote for HRC. I mean I have seen a lot of things in my time, but I have never seen California go more strongly Dem than Maryland, Massachusetts, NY…or any of a number of other states. HRC’s percentage in Cali even exceed Obama’s in 2008 and 2012! It’s amazing…so either you are totally correct in that there was MASSIVE enthusiasm for Hillary or else they committed fraud on the scale of millions of votes, which certainly cannot be true otherwise I’d have heard about this on CNN.

Either way, the electoral college, or ANYTHING that denies legitimate progressive candidates election, should be abolished. The next step is to eliminate the system that has given the GOP control of 30/50 governorships, a similar number of attorneys general, and about 70% of the legislative bodies across this country. CLEARLY there is something wrong with our voting system. Perhaps as America is a nation of immigrants, thus only immigrants are the REAL and TRUE americans, thus only immigrants should be allowed to vote! And undocumented ones should get to vote twice! How else can we rapidly achieve the same type of political nirvana as they have in their nations of origin!?!?!

MillionDollarBonus_

There was record voter turnout this election, and since Hillary won the popular vote, this turnout must have been primarily for Hillary. That’s how much America loves Hillary – she managed to persuade a RECORD number of people to vote!

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AccreditedAggie

I’ve been thinking very hard about this and I think we need to re-examine our use of WORDS! Words help us think more clearly. Many far-right, neo-nazi alt-right “organisations” claim “illegal” immigrants voted in this election. Leaving aside the fact that the correct term (as used by the New York Times and other Accredited News Sources) is “undocumented”, this just goes to prove that these hard-working people (often of color) are actually American CITIZENS, as only American CITIZENS have the right to vote! So I think from now on we should refer to them as “Undocumented Americans”.

If they’re Americans, then of course they should be allowed to vote, particularly if they are unemployed, as “no taxation without representation” means that once they vote they can start paying taxes!

Furthermore, my understanding is that many Undocumented Americans have family overseas; that technically makes them Americans too! Why can’t Overseas Undocumented Americans vote, if not for White Privilege, Patriarchy and Capitalism?

I think the voter suppression of Overseas Undocumented Americans is a scandal. The diversity they would bring to American elections would almost certainly guarantee a 100% Republican-free Legislature, Executive and Supreme Court, which I think everyone will agree is the most diverse government possible, as the Democrats ARE the party of diversity.

Toofarleftisright
Toofarleftisright

The dems are now clustered in the cities . This will allow the the Marxist progressives no foothold for years to come via the electoral college.

Black Lives Matter

The Electoral College is just another “old boys” club designed to keep womyn out of power. Hillary won the election, but Male Privilege can’t handle a womyn with authority.

trav777

What’s amazing is that Trump was somehow able to flip fucking MICHIGAN and Wisconsin to himself…Ohio and even Pennsylvania…he flipped those to red despite massive demographic disadvantages.

But somehow Hillary got a higher percentage of votes in CA than Obama did in either of his landslides. Something doesn’t add up about this. I suspect massive corruption and cheating by Trump. After all, EVERY legitimate poll had Hillary up by as much as 50 points!

Black Lives Matter

No question. They stopped us from voting decades ago using “literacy tests.” Now they use “Voter ID” and other voter suppression tactics. Racism never ends. It just changes its form.

MillionDollarBonus_

Numerous accredited intelligence sources have now confirmed that Russia did indeed hack our elections. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, but I think we may actually see this result overturned after all!

Bill Hill
Bill Hill

Hmmmm… 3 million ineligible votes were in that pile for Clinton. Electoral College was created to prevent something akin to 3 million illegals and felons from electing a president. The founding fathers were not geniuses, they just had the wisdom to ponder the collective history of politics at that point and take measures to ensure our new country had a chance of remaining free. My prediction – 200 years from today we’ll still have the Electoral college – because it’s a wise thing to have in place.

On a side note, there wasn’t much complaining about it in 2008 or 2012 was there? There’s always some group that whines about it every 4 years. But it seems it’s only a problem when a candidate that’s not a Dem wins. Pretty interesting coincidence…

MillionDollarBonus_

WOW – so you’re another one of these bigots who think hardworking undocumented Americans shouldn’t be able to vote! Disgusting!!

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AccreditedAggie

Silly Billy Hill doesn’t realise that dead people are – by definition! – people too, and everyone knows all people in America have rights – that’s guaranteed by our Constitution! Liberals understand that only 100% DEMOCRACY can guarantee rights, so why would he attempt to suppress the dead vote? A lot of the dead were very old when they died, and everyone knows people become more wise as they age (look at me – I’m 104!) so by coercing the dead not to vote they are stopping the wisest members of our wonderful country from making their much-needed contribution to our political process.

Is there NO END to alt-right bigotry? Don’t these people realise they probably have dead people in THEIR ancestry too???

Bill Hill
Bill Hill

Alas I seem to have posted while under the influence of 26% THC content legal recreational smoke. Sometimes when I do that some “spirit” enters my mind and just takes over – and obviously it’s an alt-right troll. What I MEANT to write was that the deceased have full rights in this country as well and no one should be able to discriminate against their ability to cast a ballot.

james Bond
james Bond

Anyone who thinks that we should have a President elected by the popular vote simple does not understand the whole concept of our Republic type of government. If you have a singular popular vote to elect the President, then you may as well do away with any State borders, and create a country without any State borders.

The “States” elect the President who presides over the federation of the States, through those States voting power in Congress. The best way to think of a Presidential election is to envisage that there are 50 Presidential elections in each State. The people in those States fuss and fight and argue over who is best suited for their interests in their State, then the people of that State vote. Whoever wins the vote in that State, gets that States “vote” ( as per the electoral count of that State, plus the 2 Senate votes ). The State elects the President. This is the way it should be.
This is called “States rights”.

Our system of government is not top down. All power is with the individual at the very bottom, then it is relinquished upward to the State level. The States relinquish certain powers to the Federal government.

richandrenee

Keep your fascist ideas to yourself please. The electoral college rode roughshod over democracy and the popular will of the people by dictating that the orange racist freak will be fuhrer. They have proven themselves obsolete and need to go.

MillionDollarBonus_

So you believe that rednecks in sparsely populated agricultural states should get more of a say in the direction of America? Of course you would, because you’re a Trump supporter!

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AccreditedAggie

If you knew ANYTHING about the history of democracy you would know that “your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins”, as PLATO observed! Well, everyone knows that VOTES are the most powerful thing in a democracy, so it’s clear that “your freedom to vote ends where my oppression begins”.

We all know Trump is a transphobic, anti-Semitic misogynist; if he weren’t, then why didn’t he have a sex change and marry Jared Kushner himself, instead of forcing his daughter to? You can’t get any more oppressive than being transphobic, anti-Semitic and misogynistic (unless you’re Donald Trump, in which case you hate Sharia Law too!) so, clearly, you shouldn’t be allowed to vote for him. QDE.

This is Life
This is Life

“Our system of government is not top down. All power is with the individual at the very bottom, then it is relinquished upward to the State level. The States relinquish certain powers to the Federal government.”

And here lies the problem. The unwashed masses have no idea what is good for them and if they are so ignorant as to deny us progressives leadership roles for eternity, then they should realize they deserve the whirlwind they have willing brought. It is way past time we as a specie move past the old outdated bible, discard that silly notion that jesus thinks if we all treat each other the way we would like to be treated that that alone will solve ANY problems is just ridiculous. Anyone with half a brain can see that 99% of humans are slobbering imbeciles and luckily we of the intelligent 1% have to lead this animal goyim or history proves they time and time again self destruct.

MillionDollarBonus_

The electoral college is fine as long as people elect qualified and accredited leaders. But when they elect a transphobic bigot like Trump, something needs to change!

Toofarleftisright
Toofarleftisright

My joy of several years was to see those silly little spoiled brat millennials on YouTube go from laughing to crying in a half an hour during the election … they live at home , get useless degrees and will be in debt for years to come , working as bartenders and baristas . I would expect them to default on their debt as It would make sense given their lack of character. I do deeply question their sense of realism .

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