Observing Zerohedge’s Degeneration Into Alt Right Bigotry

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I have a love-hate relationship with Zerohedge. On the one hand, it’s the place where I cut my teeth many years ago as a progressive activist, seeing it as the perfect place to educate misguided libertarians about the benefits of bailouts, monetary and fiscal stimulus, minimum wages, central planning and central banking. I even developed much as a progressive there, arguing with right wingers about every topic under the sun, and even coming to adopt some conservative views like the need for strong foreign policy in the Middle East and strong drug prohibition laws. Day after day, we duked it out over the need for robust welfare programs and generous compensation packages for government employees, as well as the dangers of fringe political candidates like Ron Paul. After a few years of trying to convince these bigots of what seemed to be self-evident truths, I became jaded, and decided to take my activism to a new level by founding the Accredited Times, my very own accredited news site, intended to mirror the views of the accredited media, and reach a wider audience.

To my dismay, the site was immediately swamped by right wing bigots from Zerohedge, who were quick to dismiss my writing as “satire” or “trolling”. But over time, as I and our growing number of other accredited writers continued to post, week after week, day after day, people began to realize that we mean business here at the AT, and we weren’t just going to disappear like they wanted us to.

Over time we have developed our own small but growing group of loyal readers, and many of us rarely spend time on Zerohedge anymore. Some, like Trav777 have been banned for being racist, but have since checked their privilege and become progressives. Every now and then though, I mosey on down to ZH to educate some of their readers, and every time I do I’m shocked to see how their comments section has degenerated. Maybe it’s because they lack my moderating presence, maybe it’s because of Donald Trump, but the caliber of commentary has rapidly deteriorated since the golden days. Years ago, most comments were well-thought-out but deeply misguided musings on financial and political concepts – comments that would really make you think, and open the subject to debate for progressive academics like myself. But today, the average comment looks as if it was written by a 15 year old kid with a temper, consisting of nothing more than snarky quips and reactionary soundbites. There is very little discussion of concepts now, and mostly just witty remarks about current affairs and day to day events. As they say, great minds talk about ideas, average minds talk about events, and small minds talk about people.

It’s sad to see ZH degenerate so much, as I want nothing more than to educate the readers there and show them the light of progressivism. But unfortunately most of them are now lost causes with little ability to think and consider new ideas. They have a reactionary response to everything, such as “false flag!”, “time to round up these (insert political enemy) and hang them high in the streets!” or “go collect another Soros paycheck, troll!”. One can only imagine that the majority of these ZH newbies have very little going on in their lives and get some kind of sick satisfaction from spewing hatred and vitriol on right wing websites. I hope for the sake of the old ZH readers, that Tyler bans these pathetic low lives en masse, and creates a calm, peaceful environment once again, where well-meaning progressives such as myself feel welcome and are able to engage conservatives in a debate of ideas.

Phyllis Stein
Phyllis Stein

MDB…your efforts are valiant. It is sad that the Alt-Right can’t come up with anyone more capable of matching your progressive intellect. How can a self respecting progressive remain sharp in his arguments if there are no worthy opponents to argue with. We will soon degenerate into a bunch of howling cretins, slinging catch phrases and mindless slogans.

Vladmir Putin
Vladmir Putin

Progressiveness doesn’t go well with self respect. It is more about bringing the other guy down to your level.

vacamuerta
vacamuerta

But that wasn’t real socialism!. Nazis were not socialists – how could they be – they were fascists!; if modern progressives had been in charge of the Soviet Union, or 1950s/1960s China they would indeed have been workers paradises. Modern progressives would never hurt people, they are motivated by altruism and humanitarianism, ideas beyond your grubby cynicism Anon. Perhaps when we come to power you will learn to repent serving in one of Michael Moor’s collective pig farms.

vacamuerta
vacamuerta

You are exaggerating!; progressives only demand justice! – ‘reparations for demographic imperialism in a post holocaust century’ to quote the Financial Times’ editorial by Mr Rachman. (And you could hardly claim the FT to be a hotbed of socialist sedition.)

Phyllis Stein
Phyllis Stein

Thank you for illustrating my point.

Vladmir Putin
Vladmir Putin

The AT staff are so confused, that they don’t know what they are fighting for. They’ll point you in ten different directions at the same time.

#obstruction-of-justice

Phyllis Stein
Phyllis Stein

Me thinks the confusion lies elsewhere……

trav777

Wrong!

We fight for the ACCREDITED and MAINSTREAM progressive narrative! You can find the SAME THINGS written on any of a TON of progressive websites!

Maybe here at AT we simply cut through the bs and go straight to the point that others will simply only imply or nibble around the edges at. So don’t hate us for being better progressives.

trav777

Yes; ZH comments have gone totally to hell.

Everybody there is high on tinfoil. If there is a car accident somewhere it’s a “false flag.” And of course, buy gold now and forever.

Look, if it were really mathematically impossible to outrun geometric compounding, wouldn’t the smart accredited economists NOT have built a monetary debt-based system predicated upon exactly that?!? I mean get serious…

Nobody has any deep understanding of anything. Fukushima is going to kill us all because Plutonium is somehow the most toxic substance on earth and a gram will kill anyone. Cities run by “democrats” are horrible because of Chicago, Detroit, and Baltimore. I mean news flash, Portland, Austin, New York? CLEARLY there is some other factor in play here to explain the difference in outcomes but I just can’t figure out what it is, but it’s clearly not democrats. Oh and guns and ammo are “protection” against the collapse of society. LOL. Ever try to carry much ammo?

That site banned anyone who really knew anything.

Bay of Pigs
Bay of Pigs

There is no way you are the original trav777 from ZH. He would never post this kind of rubbish. You are such a hypocrite as well MDB. A liar too.

trav777

I am the very original and one of a kind trav777 from ZH motherfucker…

gold, bitchez

Black Lives Matter

How’s the “zero hedge” (100% gold investing) working out for those kooks? They are so stupid it’s not even funny. Seriously, what were they thinking? You can’t eat gold.

trav777

but you can carry 1000s of rounds of lead-based ammunition. In your bugout bag.

Black Lives Matter

What’s ridiculous is that they were promoting the “doomer” philosophy during OBAMA. Now, under Trump, where democracy is seriously under threat, they think everything is great.

Pbier

Still waiting for the gold to pay a dividend or even feed me tea and biscuits when it invited me to a shareholders AGM.

MDB=lowIQ
MDB=lowIQ

i heard that obama’s wife is a man. Is that you MDB?

Black Flies Matter
Black Flies Matter

HAHA not funny. I have a good friend who was a long time ZHer. When he joined ZH he had a very high IQ around 140, now after almost 8 years of ZH propaganda his IQ is down around 70ish, maybe even lower. The damage has been done. His vocabulary has been reduced to some drivel like, and I quote – “Buy gold” “Gold bitchez”, “Nail Guns”, “MOAR”, “BTFD”, “Buy Guns and AMMO”, “Roll out the Guillotines”, “Boating accidents”, etc’,etc. Creepy huh?

He just sits there and drools on his keyboard most of the time, clicking on ZH racist propaganda articles,,,drinking heavily…mumbling to himself…sad really.

vacamuerta
vacamuerta

I think that I may have an explanation of ZeroHedge.

I believe it may be a satirical site where progressives can go and Troll on about their supposed gold, lead and bug out bags, or pretend that Ron Paul’s ideas have any relevance in the current year, or that he was ever a politician to taken seriously by the establishment in the first place.

I suspect MDB has been battling people from the SPLC, BLM, TIDES and PNAC etc when he thought that he had real life nutters to educate. No one can tell that you are a dog on the internet.

A pity we dont have access to the IP records – as ZH is a sort of domestic extremist honey pot, unless MDB knows someone at one of the 17+ intelligence agencies with off the record access to the data?.

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