What Do Older Americans Want from Their Government?

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As we covered in one of our previous articles, young Americans are very upset with the way things are going in this country and the state of the of the world. But older Americans are just as upset. After decades of political action, many older Americans feel frustrated that the government has failed to deliver the changes it promised. Older Americans have spent decades voting for new legislation which was intended to make their lives easier and create a bright future for future generations. In many ways they have succeeded. Much of the legislation over the last 50 years has transferred responsibilities which burdened previous generations to a democratically elected government, leaving younger Americans with less responsibility and a greater sense of entitlement. Older Americans have set a good example for younger generations by teaching them that the way to solve social problems is to delegate responsibility to politicians, and protest when they don’t get the job done. However the following transcripts highlight that a lot of older Americans are disappointed by the progress that our government has made, and many are demanding further political action to fix the imbalances in our society.

Lucy Johnson, age 60, CT

“I want my government to take care of the old. Times are tough, and my generation is suffering. It’s time the young in this country learned to take care of the generation that made this country great. Social security, Medicare and old age benefits take care of the basics, but these programs just aren’t enough. I don’t have any savings and I and many others are relying on the young to chip in and give something back to the generation that raised them and gave them everything they have today. Young people are spoiled today – they need to be taught some personal responsibility. ”

John Dartwood, age 59, AL

“America needs to start facing the hard reality of the threat of terroristic activity in this country. Terrorism is foreign AND domestic. There’s terrorism everywhere, not just overseas. If somebody criticized our foreign policy, that’s terrorism. If somebody threatened our government or the CYA, that’s terrorism. It’s a mindset – you need to see the threats to America before you can see it. Terrorism is serious business. We need to increase our national security and support our military. Terrorists are ruthless, and our national security measures need to be ruthless too.”

Lisa Feinstein, age 45, IL

“I want the government to do more to further gender equality in this country. I have been a gender equality activist for 25 years, and I remain shocked at the discrimination against women in this country. For a country that is supposed to support equal rights for all citizens, it is ironic that half of the population earns significantly less, is less likely to be accepted into college courses like math, physics and engineering, and is discriminated against in almost every area of our economy. It’s about time that women got equal rights in this male-dominated, patriarchal society. It’s an absolute disgrace that in this day and age, an intelligent capable woman has absolutely no opportunities and no chance of success. This simply has to end.”

Harry Ramiro, age 55, NJ

“I retired 3 years ago after 30 years as a public school teacher and proud union member. I am currently living on a reasonable pension of 100k plus benefits. I am very happy with the way things are going in this country and I’m happy for things to stay just the way they are. However, I am shocked and terrified that there is talk in this country about cutting public sector pensions. As usual, the Koch Brothers funded right wingers aren’t happy with regular Americans getting paid for their contribution to society. As teachers, we expect our students to take personal responsibility for their actions, and we reward students according to their academic performance. Likewise public school teachers produce top quality high school graduates and we expect to be compensated accordingly. For Christs sake, social security is running a surplus of IOUs! There is no need for cuts to public benefits, and people who tell you otherwise are lying little weasels.”

Conclusion

Older Americans were wise and responsible to radically overturn many archaic responsibilities such as saving for retirement over to a democratically elected government. But many believe that politicians have failed to live up to the responsibilities with which they were trusted. Older Americans make up the majority of the voting population and many of them have amassed significant power and political influence through financial success and involvement with unions and political action groups. Politicians would do well to listen seriously to their concerns and make concrete legislative changes to meet their needs.

1 COMMENT

  1. In every other society, the care and protection of the elderly is accomplished by their children. Because of high child mortality rates, people naturally had many children, thus burdening the country, and the planet, with overpopulation. Since America has become enlightened, and welcomed their GLBTTYWTF brothers and sisters and in-betweens into society, there are now many elderly who have no children and thus need the state to take care of them. We owe these people, because they have not produced any offspring to annoy us. Imagine the peace and quiet of movies, shopping malls, and baseball games without squawling children to disrupt our enjoyment. It is our duty to help provide for these people who have given us so much.

    • Good point polarbear. The young need to appreciate what the old have given us. It’s not just up to the young to take care of their own. Young people owe an entire generation of elderly Americans for their contributions to society, their solid example of how to be a responsible human being and their custodianship of the economy.

      • I can’t wait …. to see 100K retired teachers …. bumping into their ex-students …. at the grocery checkout line …. and being worried to see them using their SNAP cards …. and wondering …. how long will my golden parachute gov suck retirement cum bubble last ?

      • I agree…the elderly have worked their whole lives putting into the system, it’s only fair that they should be able to get back from that same system. Think of the teacher who made $90k a year and paid into a pension their entire career and now is able to get $100k a year or even more. That’s fairness. Don’t talk to me about how “the math doesn’t work.” Besides being sexist and racist, math can just be changed by Congress; they have the power to enact bold legislation to make the math work out. It can be done…I mean, we landed on the moon, right?

        This is the generation that won world war 1 and 2. They defeated the Nazis at Normandy basically singlehandedly. Without this generation, we would all be speaking German because they were the only ones who were able to muster sufficient opposition to stop the evil Nazis from killing everyone.

        And after this greatest generation passes, the baby boomer generation will be next in line. They were the first generation to reach 50 and this was rightly celebrated by Time and other accredited, important news publications. The boomers gave us things even probably more important than defeating the germans- diversity, equality, fairness for all. We have a long way to go on these things, but they’re the gifts that keep on giving. Especially on racism, the more progress we make, the further we have to go, so let’s roll up our sleeves!!!

      • I’m one of those old people. I’m thoroughly disgusted with my generation. The country has been destroyed on our watch. Ask anyone why WTC7 fell down. When they ask you what WTC7 was, you’ll see the problem. The people that brought down WTC7 are in my generation. The people who should have taken them to the gillotine are in my generation.

      • Todd,

        WTC7 fell down because it was not up to code. There were many whistleblowers who pointed this out but it fell on the deaf ears of incompetent inspectors. WTC7 would not have fallen if we had stronger Government Building Codes and Enforced Monthly Inspections (think about the employment this will generate).

  2. Old fuckers….now I know to trad’em!! That’s right, it’s a pink-slime world a’coming!

    I’m fully margined and allin on 3x levered Soylent Green futures bitichez!!

    Thanx MDB!

    • Go back to Zerohedge and spout your insensitive, gender-degrading lies there. At this accredited website, there is ZERO tolerance for demeaning language.

      • I agree. Zerohedge was simply a wasteland of idiotic, edgeless commentary prior to their enactment of the critical ban on “discrimination.” Hopefully their new policy drives out all the wrong kind of commenters and enables them to avail themselves of all of the advertising dollars that a good hit count can cash in on.

      • But the last time I visited Zerohedge I was disappointed to read so many conspiracy theories about Gold and Silver manipulation. Why would so many powerful institutions put so much effort and risk into manipulating something this is only held as “Tradition”?

        Haven’t we all seen the video where Dr. Ben Bernanke PWNED that crackpot Ron Paul?

      • Bob –

        gold and silver ARE manipulated, by PM bulls who try to cash in before prices completely collapse!

  3. “It’s a mindset – you need to see the threats to America before you can see it. ”

    Incredibly powerful stuff here, if only Americans could board the train to mental health. Of course I have to be able to SEE before I can SEE…and yet, I never really saw it like that before. Amazing, amazing stuff being posted here from opinion leaders who aren’t afraid to follow along with better thinking.

    And one thing I would LOVE for Accredited Times to cover at some point: Who in the hell said half of all Americans have to be less than average? Who made them God to condemn half the people you see to less-than-averageness? I get really steamed every time I try to think about that and envision the scheming SOBs who are BETTER THAN AVERAGE who made something stupid like that up.

    Come on, AC…pull out the stops and flush this ridiculous notion right down the toilet, will you? You’ve got the integrity, you’ve got the persistence, you’ve got a computer to write with. Don’t hold back!

    • If our congressmen would just listen to us, why, I bet the could pass laws within the year to make us all above average. And they should, too!

    • Yes. That statement jumped out at me too Full Retard with it’s eloquence and force. Here are some more: 2+2 is 5. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Department of Defense.

      • Your reliance on a vague discipline like mathematics to make a point is discouraging to say the least. If you were an accredited Sociologist or Community Organizer we might be more inclined to listen to you.

  4. I am 53 and have NO PENSION or HEALTH CARE BECAUSE MY PROPERTY TAXES ARE HUGE here in NY State!

    the stated reason for all of the tax increases: underfunded pension and health plans of the Gov workers. We had a $1,000.00 tax increase last year to pay for the “public servants” perks

    I am forced to pay for the perks of the privileged “public servants”
    FUCK YOU! now I can’t afford a pension or health care because I am forced to pay for your lazy fat ass!

    stop STEALING FROM ME!
    I am now a slave!
    I AM NOW THE SERVANT!

    I have to pay for the fat lazy teacher’s etc who expect to live off the producing population just because they had a cushy Government job.

    Most government workers HAVE NO IDEA WHAT REAL WORK IS!

    You produced nothing!
    but you expect everything!

    Get off you fat asses and go back to work,
    your pension plans were underfunded and you new it,

    you should have corrected this years ago and you should not have expected a PONZI Scheme to pay for your fat lazy years

    • This is a typical response of a person who has no education and who expects the highly qualified and hard-working government employees to work for free. What will happen if ALL government employees will take cushy, well paid, and secure private sector jobs? Who will work as policemen, firefighters, and teachers? Who will catch crooks, extinguish fire when your house burns, teach your children, and make sure you are safe from terrorists? Who will ensure minimal fairness at workplace?

      • What poor Joe doesn’t understand is that he gets all his taxes back in the form of government services and spending! And all those government employees are paying tax, too… and as they’re paid so much more than Joe is, they actually pay MORE tax than he does. These people are LOWERING your tax bill, Joe! You should be grateful!

      • Given a choice, I would have happily gone through life without any of the services from the so-called hard-working government employees. In every case I had to settle for (and pay for) government services I yearned for a competitive private service I could select and pay for myself. This I would prefer to being taxed and having to settle for mediocrity and incompetence in the forced trade.

      • Sorry Todd but only Chumba has figured out how get out of that. We have tried to ask him how he does it but, like Yoda, he speaks in riddles. He is very wise or just spaced out on some really good weed.

  5. I live in a RURAL area and get absolutely NO SERVICES
    but I must pay 6k per year to keep your lazy asses in a golf cart or huge motor home….

    I am educated and I have always worked hard as an entrepreneur

    I own a business but after years of hard work I am watching opportunity and prophets slip away as the government takes from my pocket to pay for you to have what I can no longer afford for myself ….This is slavery!

    You STUPID LIBERALS indorse the socialistic policies that have always failed wherever they have been tried.

    “The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price,
    safety first instead of duty, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory
    of life.”
    – Theodore Roosevelt.

    You people do not stand for LIBERTY and come across as being grossly uneducated because you obviously do not understand that FREE and FAIR markets are what built America.

    you expect and endorse the ENSLAVEMENT of others and you falsely believe that you did something special in you public “service” job
    but in actuality you simply had a cushy job (I know a LOT of teachers and .gov workers)

    “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can exist only
    until voters discover that they can vote themselves largesses from the public
    treasury. From that time on, the majority always votes for the candidate
    promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a
    democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a
    dictatorship. The average age of the world’s great civilizations has been
    200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage
    to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to
    liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from
    selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to
    dependency; from dependency back again to bondage……Sir Alex Fraser Tyler

    “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can
    bribe the public with the public’s money.”
    – Alexis De Tocqueville

    It is amazing to me that the people who are SUPPOSED to be educated can make a statement like this one from above:

    ” Think of the teacher who made $90k a year and paid into a pension their entire career and now is able to get $100k a year or even more. That’s fairness. Don’t talk to me about how “the math doesn’t work.” Besides being sexist and racist, math can just be changed by Congress; they have the power to enact bold legislation to make the math work out. It can be done”

    This idiot thinks it is “fair” to steal from others so they can sit on their ass collecting $100k a year
    and that Congress can “change the math” of a ponzi………. LOL!

    The money does not exist!

    If they (the fed) continues to print money to fund you “deserved pensions etc) we WILL have Weimer Germany style hyperinflation

    you smart teachers should? understand what
    is ACTUALLY HAPPENING in the economy (a MAJOR credit contraction)

    because you all believe that you are worth the big bucks that all of us uneducated self employed people “owe” to you and to stay “free”
    He who lends to government depends on the exploitation of the people to get repaid.

    Shame on moneychangers.

    Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners.
    — Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

    “When plunder has become a way of life for a group of people living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it, and a moral code that glorifies it.” ~ Frédéric Bastiat

    “The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushes its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks. . . will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. . . the issuing power should be taken from the banks, and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”……….Thomas Jefferson

    I predict future happiness for
    Americans if they can prevent the government
    from wasting the labors of the people under the
    pretense of taking care of them.
    Thomas Jefferson

    My reading of history convinces me
    that most bad government results from too much
    government.
    Thomas Jefferson

    “Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value —- zero.” – Voltaire

    “There is no dignity quite so impressive, and no independence quite so important, as living within your means.”
    President Calvin Coolidge

    “The best thing that government can do [for the economy] is get out of the way.”
    – Milton Friedman (Nobel Prizewinner in Economics)

    • I think that Debbie-Downer types of personalities such as “joe” have to restrain themselves from typing too much since it makes me depressed and creates hostile environment in this blog. Be more positive! Instead of reading all those unaccredited quotes, how about a few legitimate ones:

      “It is often safer to be in chains than to be free” – Franz Kafka

      “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” – Winston Churchill

      “The superior man understands what is right; the inferior man understands what will sell.” -Confucius. This directly proves that government is superior to business.

      • Joe certainly sounds like a cross wasp!

        When I worked for the government I would always do my best to explain to angry men like Joe – who were almost certainly forced to listen to all sorts of historical inaccuracies as children on their fathers’ knees – and explain that, thanks to real Giants like FDR (that’s Franklyn Delano Roosevelt, Joe) we now have REAL Liberty – liberty from hunger and want. Liberty to get food on our SNAP cards. The Liberty to support each other through different government programs, which all pay for themselves because those hard-working government employees are all taxpayers too!

        I have noticed many people who are angry at the government always seem to rely on quoting famous old dead White people, many of whom kept slaves. Quoting a bunch of mean old racists isn’t going to persuade anybody nowadays, Joe; fortunately, our fine educators will help teach your children how to think properly so you don’t have to worry about them making the same mistakes as you.

        And remember the best part – it’s all free!

    • I’m sorry, this accredited blog simply cannot countenance the type of extreme greediness and even racism that you espouse. You do nothing but quote slave owners and patriarchal white privileged people to try to criticize and undermine basic fairness.

      You very clearly lack the basic compassion and intelligence to know who I am and what this blog is about.

      • It’s not his fault, Trav; he was almost certainly brought up to believe in silly things like the gold standard – which is what made the Great Depression!

        I know I shouldn’t laugh, but I just can’t help it, to think of how people want to go back to carrying heavy purses full of gold around again.

    • @joe, you sound very bitter and anti-social. I guess living a rural life out in the boonies with noone to talk to can be hazardous to one’s mental health. Are you near a big city? Please seek an accredited mental-health expert in the nearest city about your anti-social attitude.

  6. drB, PhD from accredited University = where they teach nothing?

    did you learn or just pay for the PhD?

    “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” – Winston Churchill

    We are not a democracy

    we are supposed to be a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC
    (with a democratic voting process only)
    that upholds our INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS / not some ill-conceived notion of the collective ability to vote someone rights away

    “It is often safer to be in chains than to be free”

    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
    ― Samuel Adams

    Debbie-Downer types of personalities such as “joe” will Be more positive
    when our REPUBLIC is Restored

    • more quotes from white privileged patriarch slave owners

      your kind is obsolete with all of your antiquated and racist notions of truth. This is the New America. 1+1 can equal 3 if we just think positively enough…there is no limit to the human imagination.

      People now want FULL equality, and all of their basic human rights met: food, housing, health care, spending money, entertainment. Why should only the privileged rich have access and opportunity? These things must be distributed fairly by qualified, elected officials. Yearning for the Old America is like yearning for colored-only drinking fountains. The way forward is not by going backwards, it is by more diversity and more opportunity and access.

      • I do hope Joe keeps coming back to this blog, so he can get the latest Accredited Opinions. He could learn SOOO much, with his dusty old quotes by Tobias Jefferson, LOL.

        Silly Joe! Those men believed in SLAVERY!!! You KNOW in your heart slavery is wrong, you MUST do!

        I wonder if he thinks the earth is flat too, like his old heroes!

    • @joe, I sure hope you are not a gun owner. Someone with your anti-social, negative attitude should not be allowed to own any guns!

      • Good point, Rationalnvestor! Yet another reason for more firearm regulation! I hope that someone will take initiative and report “joe” to local law enforcement!

  7. Intergenerarional transfers are part of the social contract. Current workers are paying my retirement, health, and dental. When we get old we need a lot of services and there is no way we could pay for it ourselves. I only get $5000 per month. There is no way I could pay for everything I need out of that.

    • Grandpa,

      Just do what I do: 35 passports, 152 countries, getting a blowjob from a katoey in Thailand for only $10 (hey I am an progressive), and investing in seashells in Tahaa.

      I know, I know, you all can’t be as smart as me but if you try, you too can an International Man of Mystery.

      Simon,
      The Most Interesting Man in the World

      • and most income from nitwits who sign up for paid service to learn that anyone who has $100M can live well in Switzerland

  8. These young punks complaining about paying for my retirement need to get off my lawn and get a job.

    It was democratically decided that young people are gonna pay the healthcare and retirement of us old folks. The majority rule. Get used to it.

  9. Grandpa,

    I have $70,000 in student debt and the only job I can get is at Starbucks. I gave it a shot but, as an English Major from an Accredited University, I decided that I deserve more so walked out on day 1.

    Where are the jobs that I am entitled to? The Government should create high paying jobs for Accredited English Majors such as myself. This is ridiculous! The most powerful nation on Earth can’t give me a decent job?

  10. I started receiving my modest Social Suck benefit at 62 some 6+ years ago …. I have already received much more than I put in … I kid my hard working restaurant owner neighbor …. that I’m spending his retirement funds …. I think I better lighten up on the jokes …. life is tough on Restaurant Retirement Hell Row !

    • For the first time in human history …. we have a large welfare class …. who have never worked their entire lives …. and are now living their golden years …. splendidly …. forward abundant Capitalism !

  11. That senior “chick”on the right …. jogging in her plum top …. looks pretty good to this old geezer …. being the wife of a government worker …. has been good for her !